WESTERN VPs & WCTPTF TRUSTEES SELL OUT MEMBERS

[RJ162]

Where is this language at specifically in the new TA? Or is this all rumor and speculation? I want to read it myself.

[Stiffo]

National Master Tentative Agreement Article 34 - Page 23 thru 27 to read for yourself.

[Gimme_Danger]

The Western Conference of Teamsters Pension is different from every other Teamster plan in that it is considered a hybrid defined benefit plan. Each participating teamster member has their own individual account. The money going in is based on the contribution rate (which is listed as dollars and cents per hour) contributed by the employer and spelled out in the contract. Improvements are only made when additional money is negotiated into the agreement. If the contribution is frozen you keep what you have but no improvement is possible. You build your monthly pension check slowly over time and that check is determined by the number of hours you work and the contribution levels over your career. A freeze is unprecedented at UPS. A five year freeze would be devastating and the damage would go well beyond UPS. This is a strike issue. Teamsters in the West who follow and understand the pension will not accept it.

Any Healthcare trust that attempts to subsidize health benefits in order to put in at least some money will see double the rate increase in the second year, which should concern any fiduciary. The only way to solve this is to restore the concepts of equality that existed prior to this TA.?

Try telling Faust that their pension is a hybrid plan. They say it like that's a negative, without understanding any of it.

So the fund requires an increase to maintain benefits? Or you just want an increase annually?
I would love an increase but I don't expect one.

[JT67]

For the last 5 negotiations at least, the West, and particularly JC7, had to battle the International over the IBT trying to give away the conditions, contract language, HW, and pension. Idiots who were easily bullshitted by thinking they were the negotiations chairs' friend like Marty Frates, had to be pushed aside by Mack and then Aloise to tell the IBT to go fuck themselves. To their credit, the West officers and BAs held their ground and we never were traded away. Now that has all ended. The people like frates and hicks and flynn, and griswold, and the Oregon idiot let oz buy them first, and take total advantage of the incompetence, lack of knowledge and history, and frankly their lack of balls, and allowed the contributions to the WCTPTF to be FROZEN FOR 5 YEARS!!! Guess where the money goes? You got it, New England and other plans. NO pushback as VPs or Trustees to the IBT plan. !!! This is simply the largest betrayal in the history of the WEST! Those who are Trustees need to resign immediately from the WCTPTF and should be totally and completely kicked out and brought up on charges for selling out the members covered by the WCTPTF.

[Nights]

People need to read the document, the TA, and its not just the West that got hit with a freeze.

[Heyguy80]

[Stiffo]

[JT67]

They are using Teamster Link to sow seeds of discontent.

[Nickjamesups]

Sow the seeds of discontent ? 50 cents as opposed to a dollar sows more seeds of discontent then simply asking about it ! How dare anyone question the Great and Powerful Oz !

Sorry in my book taking half is a concession .

[Guest]

[Wiggy]

Sorry, "dick stepper" has been called away to mediate a peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians. Could take a day or two.

[Guest]

Sorry, "dick stepper" has been called away to mediate a peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians. Could take a day or two.

[nonstarter]

How can anyone in the Western area complain about pension or anything else? They had two vice presidents, Hicks and Davison, on the National Committee. Sounds like their okay with it.

[local70teamster]

Hicks and Davison followed Sean's orders, by endorsing the frozen pension contributions in the West. Hicks and Davison are protecting their multiple salaries and violating their fiduciary duties to the Western Region Pension Plan Participants.

The Old Rick Hicks would have never tolerated this bullshit. But he sold out to TDU and O'Brien for a handsome price. Heck, he even got a million dollars given to his Local from Sean. Sean expects favors in return, and Sean's New England Plan is reaping the rewards of freezing the West Region pension contributions.

[Gimme_Danger]

Where are you seeing that the new england fund is benefiting? All funds are being treated the same. If they don't need the money, they won't get it.

[JT67]

How can anyone in the Western area complain about pension or anything else? They had two vice presidents, Hicks and Davison, on the National Committee. Sounds like their okay with it.

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I saw this on line last night.

[JayCee]

TDU is selling the hell out of this deal and the "old guard" is picking it apart...Interesting times

[Faust]

TDU is selling the hell out of this deal and the "old guard" is picking it apart...Interesting times

I'm sure O'Brien is offering TDU a few coins to promote it.