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  • Sasquatch16
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 104

    #1

    UPS & Cameras

    https://www.freightwaves.com/news/ups-must-negotiate-with-teamsters-before-introducing-new-technologies?fbclid=IwAR06ECrXokN_MvinUcktNXVK6eQ3 btsZYo9wW54nZ1aV7vinw6dIFqgdsN8_aem_th_AZKlbaTaRPv p8znROSKC7vdrA3YtSJerSBMegqVcXT6zq8lHJsGBZrX9rB0fe g3PyKA&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh= 16863479152371&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.go ogle.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freightwaves.c om%2Fnews%2Fups-must-negotiate-with-teamsters-before-introducing-new-technologies
  • Gimliboston9
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2023
    • 274

    #2

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  • Faust
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 887

    #3
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    • Faust
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2023
      • 887

      #4
      The cameras will remain and they will be able to record drivers (members) for training purposes and can't be used to discipline drivers.

      They cant discipline drivers, but since when do Teamsters believe management? They actually currently have the ability to watch drivers.

      This is a concession.

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      • Sasquatch16
        Sasquatch16 commented
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        Please post a credible link & video. Thank you
    • Faust
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2023
      • 887

      #5
      The video of the webinar is there. The cameras remain in with the ability to record drivers for training purposes.

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      • 1speed
        Member
        • Mar 2023
        • 13

        #6
        Watch the video its discussed at about 12:00.

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        • 1speed
          1speed commented
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          Sounds like no driver facing cameras to me.
      • UPS909Strong
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 281

        #7
        So let me get this straight. Management will be able to surveil Members 24/7? It's not about just discipline, it's about having a stupid camera watching your every move. Can we say Big Brother? How many Managers will be spying on the female drivers??

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        • Please Sign for This
          Member
          • Apr 2023
          • 9

          #8
          O'Brien's announcement on the 7th was pretty clear. The TA was no cameras and not for training purposes either.

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          • JT67
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2023
            • 241

            #9
            Originally posted by Please Sign for This
            O'Brien's announcement on the 7th was pretty clear. The TA was no cameras and not for training purposes either.
            Thats the way i heard it. No inward facing cameras and not for training purposes either.

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            • Sasquatch16
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 104

              #10

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              • JT67
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2023
                • 241

                #11

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                • Wiggy
                  Member
                  • Apr 2023
                  • 81

                  #12
                  The devil is in the details. My concern would be with the 45 day negotiation on tech like last mile delivery. Especially with a 5 year contract.

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                  • Truthspeaker
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 53

                    #13
                    I agree, ups will corrupt that language as they always do . Then they will violate it and we will wait for arbitration.

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                    • NedLudd
                      Member
                      • May 2023
                      • 11

                      #14
                      Cameras are staying.

                      Nobody has disputed that the outward facing cameras will now be an enshrined right in our contract for the company to install. With inward facing cameras, while O'Brien says they are to be "disabled", he also explicitly stated the tentative agreement will allow the use of "sensors" facing the driver for "training purposes". The sensor on the Lytx Drive Cam systems is a camera. That's how it detects your seatbelt not being on, you being distracted while driving, etc. So while it may not record on a regular basis like the outward facing camera, the inward facing camera will obviously continue to be used. Cameras are just "sensors".

                      This tentative agreement permits the continued harassment of drivers based solely upon technology and presents a venue where an item can be observed on camera (live streamed even), and a supervisor can just lie about having seen it in person. You cannot disprove them, because if you lie you are terminated. The only victory with cameras in a TA is their complete removal from all equipment, otherwise harassment will continue, business as usual.

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                      • working396
                        working396 commented
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                        Having read the entire thread, the IBT needs to clarify, as we've seen recently their way to quick to take credit.
                    • Truthspeaker
                      Moderator
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 53

                      #15

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