Sean O'Brien, $20 is an insult!!

[952 Bulldog]

PT UPSers tell Sean O'Brien $20 is an insult!! O'Brien has been telling the media he's fighting to raise starting wages to $20 for PT Hub employees. Meanwhile MRAs across the country have starting wages well above the $20 mark, like hubs in Portland & Columbus to name a few. Anything below $25 starting wage would be a sell out! PT America doesn't work, neither does PT wages!!

[Faust]

PT UPSers tell Sean O'Brien $20 is an insult!! O'Brien has been telling the media he's fighting to raise starting wages to $20 for PT Hub employees. Meanwhile MRAs across the country have starting wages well above the $20 mark, like hubs in Portland & Columbus to name a few. Anything below $25 starting wage would be a sell out! PT America doesn't work, neither does PT wages!!

Atta Dog!!!

[Sasquatch16]

[Idle]

Well. I've heard this before. Teamsters bargain for all UPS drivers no matter where they work. The work is the same no matter where you work. I've heard t because teamsters say don't raise the minimun wage cause the price of goods will go up. No, the price goes up because they raise the price of fuel. UPS work is hard. Pay them for it.

[Br.Joe]

I would say the minimum we should accept for starting pay @ ups is $27. They word on the street is that is the most they paid to hirer part timers during the great resignation/ peak. So that should be 1 of the lines in the sand to strike over.

[Faust]

Philadelphia has an MRA of $22.

[The Direct Line]

$20 would be a concession to UPS. $25, anything less than that is a NO VOTE.

[Sasquatch16]

Do you know what the word concession means?

A $5 an hour raise right off the bat is not a concession.
You UPSers need to come back down to planet earth, no one gets a $5 raise right off the bat right away let alone through the lifetime of the agreement.

I was a freight guy at Roadway when we gave concessions.

15% reduction on our pay to be exact. A concession is when you give money back, not when you get a $5 an hour raise.

[Faust]

That 15% was beyond a concession. That was being taken to back woods and getting butt raped brother.

That was all Hoffa and Tyson Johnson. Every local joined them in the backwoods.

A Walmart driver on average makes well over $100k without paying any union dues and a matching 401k. Hoe much do YRC drivers make? Do they get a matching 401k after some lost their pension?

[Sasquatch16]

[Faust]

100% on point!!!

[TheMilitantTeamster]

1. $15.50 (top start under Hoffa-contract) vastly underpays workers in the industry. Amazon and FedEx are already paying above $20 in many major markets.
2. Inflation in the last 2.5 years alone has been over 20% nationally and more in various regions.
3. UPS has made the largest profits in its history due to incredible demand in 2020-2022 and is projected to continue to make significant profits in 2023.
4. Seniority must be rewarded. And new hires must make enough to survive. 25/75/5 brings up the base wage to what UPS is already paying in many places under the MRAs, ensures long serving workers get a fair pay increase, and will make sure everyone gets a raise that is higher than normal inflation (2.6% is the historical average)

[Faust]

1. $15.50 (top start under Hoffa-contract) vastly underpays workers in the industry. Amazon and FedEx are already paying above $20 in many major markets.
2. Inflation in the last 2.5 years alone has been over 20% nationally and more in various regions.
3. UPS has made the largest profits in its history due to incredible demand in 2020-2022 and is projected to continue to make significant profits in 2023.
4. Seniority must be rewarded. And new hires must make enough to survive. 25/75/5 brings up the base wage to what UPS is already paying in many places under the MRAs, ensures long serving workers get a fair pay increase, and will make sure everyone gets a raise that is higher than normal inflation (2.6% is the historical average)

So someone with 24 years as a part-timer would jump from $30 to over $48. That is more than a top rate driver.

I support part-timers and their pligh, bur this is unrealistic.

[TheMilitantTeamster]

[The Direct Line]

On the flip side, why is it realistic and acceptable that a driver with 10 years should make more than a part-timer with 24 years. All of our work is valuable. One job should not be held at a higher than another job. We have let the corporation devalue the pay for part-timers.

[Faust]

I support drastic improvements, but you have forgotten that the head negotiator is Sean O'Brien.

Did you forget what he did in 2013?

I'm glad part-timers are gonna be a nightmare for O'Brien if you organize and I will stand 100% with you guys in solidarity. You make two-thirds of the total UPS membership and can out vote full timers. I have never voted YES and am not starting now. I will vote No and push a No vote at my hub.

After O'Brien sided with Biden in the railroads and failed to accomplish anything in his first year i have zero faith in him.

[TheMilitantTeamster]

[SlipSheets]

Didn't appreciate the Butt **ped comment! Someone suggested different rates for different areas, So that means we would have a 2, 3, 4,............ 26 tiered system? Hope my employer doesn't hear about that. NO THANKS, same work same pay. That's brotherhood. Its understood some areas have higher cost of living, but why should workers in other areas have to pay for that? Wouldn't a regional contract with a COL adjustment for higher areas be a better way?

[TheMilitantTeamster]

[TheMilitantTeamster]