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  • OT+
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 2105

    #1

    Edgar Esquivel on "Best Contracts"

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    Edgar Esquivel on "Best Contracts"
  • UPS909Strong
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 281

    #2
    SO has failed. We knew though. He was never a reformer. The Teamsters need a purging. We need leaders who are dedicated to really fighting for workers and their families. Hope to see someone while I'm still alive

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    • Bob Randall
      Bob Randall commented
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      Well...purging? I dunno. I've seen leaders (some, few, but some) get elected to the GEB (leaders) that were well intended. However, within those few there were even fewer that didn't end up prostituting themselves to the General Presidents that were not "right" for the job. As SOB is not right for the job he holds his GEB and Local Officers, responsible with the fear of retaliation. I've watched it for decades. We need a GP that holds GEB members responsible (as well as rewards) for the "right" reasons.
  • working396
    Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 66

    #3
    It's a cold day in Hell, I find myself in agreement with Edgar.

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    • NYNick
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2024
      • 114

      #4

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      • The Direct Line
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 221

        #5
        Edgar needs to be careful cuz SOB Jr. might comment so tough guy language and say "You won't say that to my face."

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      • Nickjamesups
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 332

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      • Bob Randall
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2024
        • 108

        #7
        It's issues such as Edgar's that are much more likely to resonate with our members. Much more so than "skewed numbers, fired staff, lawsuit, discrimination, boot licker, TDU coalition", etc. I am not suggesting that anyone should not have their own thoughts with respect to those mentioned. I AM SAYING that if anyone communicates for the purpose of eroding support and exposing SOB that they stick closer to workers' issues that resonate. Taylored issues. Organizing 101: Don't tell voters what they should vote for. Listen to the voters and let them tell you what they want. That's beginner shit right there.

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        • Nights
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2023
          • 108

          #8
          Originally posted by Bob Randall
          It's issues such as Edgar's that are much more likely to resonate with our members. Much more so than "skewed numbers, fired staff, lawsuit, discrimination, boot licker, TDU coalition", etc. I am not suggesting that anyone should not have their own thoughts with respect to those mentioned. I AM SAYING that if anyone communicates for the purpose of eroding support and exposing SOB that they stick closer to workers' issues that resonate. Taylored issues. Organizing 101: Don't tell voters what they should vote for. Listen to the voters and let them tell you what they want. That's beginner shit right there.
          I really don't think anyone's suggesting that "skewed numbers, fired staff, lawsuit, discrimination, boot licker, TDU coalition, etc"are issues that will win elections. There's plenty of inside baseball and details that leaders, i.e. officers and activists, use to help them make decisions. Leaders are more likely to understand the significance of cut-backs at the NLRB, for example than R&F members. Things like "skewed numbers, fired staff, lawsuit, discrimination, boot licker, TDU coalition, etc", should be important to all leaders, particularly those that want an honest democratic union that doesn't accept gaslighting as fact.

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          • Bob Randall
            Bob Randall commented
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            I understand and agree with you and Nickjamesup. We are simply talking about two different audiences. If the only members that sign into this site are leaders or potential leaders then have at it. Now, I gotta say, I've seen plenty of leaders take part in campaigning that don't understand basic organizing. Some, in fact, where terrible at framing messages. Well intended folks. Just wrong in their efforts to effectively communicate. My comment wasn't meant to be personal. Keep the comment in mind or don't.
        • Nickjamesups
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2023
          • 332

          #9

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          • Thisischange?
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 624

            #10
            Well stated Nick!

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            • Mr. Teamster
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2023
              • 345

              #11
              What does Edgar know about anything? This is coming from a guy who has never had a girlfriend in his life. There is layers to this onion I have been told. Like really strange stuff

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              • NYNick
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              • Barry455
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                I could give a shit about his love-life the post and statement was a good one.

              • WTF891
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                Mr. T is a troll.

              • Mr. Teamster
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