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  • TheMilitantTeamster
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 457

    #1

    What is TDU?

    The Teamsters for a Democratic Union presents itself to workers as a rank-and-file organization. It is no such thing.
  • TheMilitantTeamster
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 457

    #2

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    • TheMilitantTeamster
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2023
      • 457

      #3
      Labor Notes, founded by IS members Kim Moody, Jane Slaughter and Jim West in 1979. The various union reform groups included Miners for Democracy in the United Mine Workers of America, Steelworkers Fightback in the United Steelworkers, and, somewhat later, the New Directions movement in the United Auto Workers. The involvement of the IS and other middle class groupings varied in each union. It was strongest inside the Teamsters.[7][8]

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      • TheMilitantTeamster
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 457

        #4
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        • EmptyGlassJEM
          Member
          • Mar 2023
          • 45

          #5
          What is tdu today ?
          nothing more than the social media department for the IBT.
          They got a seat at the table now. Paff and Levin sold out the back and file for ?

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          • Faust
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 887

            #6
            Originally posted by TheMilitantTeamster
            You need to stop with your article length posts. No one is reading them.

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            • Mr. Teamster
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2023
              • 345

              #7
              Originally posted by Faust

              You need to stop with your article length posts. No one is reading them.
              Something you and I agree on. We have reached more common ground. These guys are idiots.

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              • Teamsterstrong
                Member
                • Sep 2023
                • 79

                #8
                All they do is steal your money dave Lavine will strong arm you for money ?

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              • Harold Smith
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2023
                • 3

                #9
                For the first time in its existence, TDU has supported an action taken by the IBT and it turns out to be OZ's decision to fire 13 organizers of color. Tells me all I need to know about TDU at this time.

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                • Thisischange?
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2023
                  • 624

                  #10
                  No substance, a storefront of ideas without any product.Please donate today!

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                  • JZuraw
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 82

                    #11
                    Bashing TDU from the Left or bashing TDU from the Right - neither line of attack does any good for rank & file Teamsters. A compromised TDU is better than no TDU. And a lot of the 'history' in these posts is bunk. TDU gives rank & file Teamsters access and resources.

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                    • Watcher745
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                    • Faust
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                      How about the salary report they stopped publishing?

                    • TheMilitantTeamster
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                    • DanaCos
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                      TDU has sold out for the hopeful increase in membership, AKA money.

                    • Thisischange?
                      Thisischange? commented
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                      Consider this head on bashing. They have turned a blind eye to the multitude of wrondoings and stand for absolutely nothing. Their stale assed workshops are 20 plus years of retreaded shit. Paff has always been about funding the store. Dana you are 100% correct.
                  • Wiggy
                    Member
                    • Apr 2023
                    • 81

                    #12
                    Originally posted by JZuraw
                    Bashing TDU from the Left or bashing TDU from the Right - neither line of attack does any good for rank & file Teamsters. A compromised TDU is better than no TDU. And a lot of the 'history' in these posts is bunk. TDU gives rank & file Teamsters access and resources.
                    TDU ignores anything that could possibly be considered critical of the IBT under O'Brien as a result they've lost credibility.

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                    • Gimme_Danger
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2023
                      • 137

                      #13
                      Originally posted by Thisischange?
                      No substance, a storefront of ideas without any product.Please donate today!
                      Did 2 of the 3 owners of this site feel that way when it helped with their political ambitions?
                      Past critics of TDU used to say they thought it was too negative, and would only say something positive about a political ally.
                      TDU people seem to be distancing themselves from the overly negative types.
                      Seems this site is the hub for those left behind.

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                    • DanaCos
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 970

                      #14
                      Originally posted by Gimme_Danger

                      Did 2 of the 3 owners of this site feel that way when it helped with their political ambitions?
                      Past critics of TDU used to say they thought it was too negative, and would only say something positive about a political ally.
                      TDU people seem to be distancing themselves from the overly negative types.
                      Seems this site is the hub for those left behind.
                      What do you mean? One of the three that I know was in the fight to reform the union back when the movement was getting traction. When the 2 gents did a video asking why TDU was heading in the direction it was, I was quietly applauding because I saw TDU for what it was worth long before most. TDU fought the scumbags that were propping up the Fascist Hoffa or so we thought. When I got the chance to speak to people that were in TDU when Fred broke away from his ass kissing antics and acted like a Vote No advocate, they (Local 89 TDU members) told me they were stabbed in the back by Ken Paff. They were fighting the administration and Suckerman and gave their full attention to TDU and then Paff decides to make Zuckerman their idol instead of treating him like a pariah.

                      By the way, I will ask again, where we you in 2013 when we were fighting against the worst contract in UPS history?

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                      • Faust
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                        He was sucking up to Hoffa and O'Brien.
                    • Watcher745
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2023
                      • 116

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                      • DanaCos
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